Thursday, August 2, 2012

2000 pictures of the Siyum Hashas on Yeshiva World and NOT ONE PICTURE of the thousands of women who attended.

Articles in Jewish publications about noshim tzikaniyos, women in our community, beloved educators, talented and gifted women featured in articles - and not a single picture.

Pamphlets and brochures of schools and institutions  with  no pictures of the female students (with the exception of the yeshiva in Cleveland, kudos to them!)

videos at school dinners featuring the students - boys of all ages and girls up to 1st grade.

Girls' schools orientations  and girls' graduations where fathers are asked not to attend.

and of course, men only events. 

Vorts with separate rooms for men and women.

Kiddushes with 6 ft. high mechitzas. 

Let's not even get into people who won't give rides to girls if their sons are in the car.

Families who won't have guests for shabbos meals if their boys are home and the guests have daughters.

Girls who can't have a friend over when the yeshiva bochur brother is home for the weekend (and I don't mean because they want "family only" time)

When something is absolutely forbidden all the time, isn't that what you spend all your time thinking about?

It is no wonder that boys want gorgeous, thin, super attractive girls for their wives.  They haven't had any chance to talk to or meet with a girl who may have great ma'alos and also may be larger than a size 6. So they are fantasizing.

Don't misunderstand me - I am not advocating mixed events, dating for fun, or excessive fraternizing and flirting.

Maybe I have it all wrong!  Can we have a boy age 18-25 weigh in here?

Or is it just possible, maybe maybe, despite all this extreme separation and forbidden interaction, that frum boys are really just like non frum boys? they really, really, REALLY think about women and their looks and want to marry a gorgeous hottie??

If that's the case, what have we accomplished?


tesyaa said...

The NYT printed a picture of women davening. It was respectful. The women looked modest and pious. Maybe you need to expand your choices of new media.

daughtersintheparsha said...

I would of course assume that a non jewish publication would have pics of women, why not? you missed my point completely: that the jewish publications ignore women, their accomplishments, their importance in our society. or demean us by thinking that by publishing a picture of women every male over the age of 10 will ogle and have bad thoughts. or that there is something inherently wrong with publishing pictures of frum women for other frum people to see. like how organizations now do not print pics of women being honored with their husbands at dinners. and I am specifically referring to the right wing camp

tesyaa said...

daughters: for years people happily accepted unnecessary chumras. People chose to put their kids in right-wing schools. People accepted more tznius strictures than ever before. All of a sudden you're surprised that women are missing from pictures in the name of tznius? Did you think that chumra creep was going to suddenly stop at the point at which you personally become uncomfortable?